Barack Obama: Four More Years!!!

We won!!! We are moving forward!

Obamacare is here to stay!

The Senate stays in Democratic hands! But let’s write to our Senators and ask for filibuster reform!

Elizabeth Warren beats ex nude model Scott Brown and is elected first female senator of Massachusetts!

Tammy Baldwin wins in Wisconsin. She becomes the first openly gay senator ever!

Millionaires and billionaires will have to help pay down the debt by paying taxes at a fair rate!

And The Losers

The Tea Party lost big! Tea Party candidates who made outrageous claims about rape and God lost big.

Karl Rove lost big! When everyone else had called the presidency for Obama, Rove at Fox News was still doing his sums, arguing a Romney victory in Ohio is possible. As Sam Wang so aptly put it:

Wow. Just wow. (1) Anger, (2) Denial, (3) Bargaining… holy Kuebler-Ross.

Billionaries and their Super PACs attempting to buy the elections lost big!

Republican governors and Republican state legislatures who fought to suppress the African American and minority vote lost!

Am I forgetting someone? Oh, yeah… that guy: Mitt Romney.

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  • Tom

    The sequestration/"fiscal cliff" situation is going to kick in almost immediately because there is so little time.  But the difference between 2010 and now is that the GOP is unlikely to have the stomach for a huge public fight. There will be many more backroom deals this time around. Expect some social program and defense cuts to be reduced based on new funding from the one percent.

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    • BC

      I actually like the sequestration.  It's only $1.2 trillion over 10 years, $500 billion being on defense.  This is a 3.16% spending cut per year given $3.8 trillion spent in 2011.
       
      I definitely understand the idea that you don't want to layoff people in a tight economy, but also think the private sector will view these cuts positively – a lot more needs to happen as well.
       
      So if not now – when do you cut govt spending?
       
       

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      • Tom

        It is convenient that the spending cuts are the default outcome and not doing nothing.  I like the big defense spending cuts, but there is the jobs and fiscal stimulus aspect, as you say.  This will part of the deal-making.  I trust Obama.

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    • multiculti

      Did you see BC’s comment? Congrats on your accurate predictions here too. I thing filibuster reform should be addressed first. Or else, the gridlock will continue throughout the fiscal cliff negotations.

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  • BC

    Well for starters – congrats to Tom.  He understands polling far better than I do.  Tom – nicely done.
     
    Regardless of who had won you still have a badly divided country.  Obama faces the difficult task of bringing the country together.
     
    As per the losers – it will be the entire country if polarization is not ended.  Not an easy task.  We got out of the great depression largely due to WW2 spending, but more importantly due to the fact that we came together as a country on a common goal.
     
    If we are to get out of our economic quagmire then we need to come together – let's hope this happens.
     
    Also don't think it's about the "1%" rather out of control lobbying that benefits 15% of the country or so – Wall Street, pharma, unions, defense, etc.  So I'm looking forward to seeing lobbying addressed and lessened.
     
    As for Obamacare, unclear how this is made an economic reality where it is paid for and all get proper care.  Ita I think you made a very telling point months ago as per Germany having a cost per capita at 50% of ours.
     
    And this is where we need to head to pay for it.  I am looking forward to suing, insurance and pharma all being brought under control to achieve this.  Would also like to see the outrageous cost of education addressed.
     
    On foreign policy issue very worried now that Israel wil go off and do something rash as per Iran or the region in general.  Also worried what others might do in the region so let's hope calm heads and peace prevails.
     
    Above all I want jobs, jobs and jobs – so lets hope the economy gets moving again.

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  • Tom

    Thank you BC!  As for the polls, I just liked watching them.  To your points

    - I agree with your sentiments vis a vis Israel and Iran.  Thankfully the sanctions appear to be working, Iran is slowly imploding and Israel no longer has any political cards to play against the U.S.  Hopefully the war talk will cool down.

    - Any new health care reform will be undertaken with the understanding that "Obamacare" is now the law of the land.  Obama himself was amenable to this, so we should see some "health care reform reforms".

    - Our country's divisions preceded Obama.  A white-controlled national government was living on borrowed time given demographic trends.  As a white male who grew up in Miami in the '70s and '80s, I think I know how this will play out.  Barack Obama is not Abe Lincoln (metrosexual or otherwise), but he really is the right president for our times.

    I did a tour this morning of right-wing blogs and found this telling poll on NRO:

    NRO POLL
    Is the election a permanent or temporary setback for conservatism?

    Permanent  

      59 %

    Temporary  

      41 %

    3,652 votes

    It seems that they know the writing is on the wall.

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    • BC

      Tom – the sanctions are working very well and I have supported them from the get go and other.  Don't want more war.  I believe I wrote a piece on the dangers of conflict with Iran on Immizen a few months ago.
       
      My concern is that Israel takes action on their own.  Time will tell.  Not saying this will happen rather wouldn't be good if they did.
       
      As per health care reform this gets into what Congress will do and I'm not sure what they will do.  ACA need a ton of work to realize it's intent.  I'm in NJ and even though ACA was a dem pushed idea I can't imagine our democratic senators getting tough on big pharma.  Pharma employs a lot of people in the state.
       
      So HC is 1/6th of the economy and to cut costs per capita means taking margin and jobs away.  So I question that either party in Congress will do this – so this is the challenge.
       
      I agree that polarization has existed for a while and has continued to get worse – wasn't putting this entirely on Obama, but it has continued under his time in office.  I think the main problem is out of control lobbying, which I think is unsustainable and benefits maybe 15% of the population.
       
      As for conservatism – the right wing of the Republican party is crazy, but I also think the dems have gone too far left.  As I have made it abundantly clear on this blog I support a moderate 3rd party as I think coming to the center is the only way that works.  This does not mean I support the Tea Party – they are incredibly unrealistic economically.
       
      I don't think Obama or Romney (had he won) were the right people the run the country.  Given that Obama got the nod – let's see what he does.  And what Obama intends to do is unclear to me – I will have to wait and see.  As per both Romney and Obama – don't think either of their ideas work economically.
       
      Also don't see it as white versus non white.  There are plenty of non whites in federal, state and local govt.  I see it as who will best represent the general populace.
       
      If you look at the demograpic in Miami it's a lot of people that fled their countries for more freedom – economic and other and above all a better future for themselves and their children.  In this regard it is quite similar to all prior waves of immigration to the US – e pluribus unum.
       
      The most stable economy anywhere is maximum fair participation in commerce and in this regard lobbying needs to be reined in, manufacturing needs to return to the US and a host of other things need to happen as well.
       
      When you look at how much more people on the top earn than the average worker decades ago – it doesn't work.  This is due to unbridled greed and a lack of legislation to prevent it.
       
      I had little hope that Romney would hold Wall Street to task, but after the mortgage fiasco no one on Wall Street of note was prosecuted other than Madoff and a few others on fraud or insider trading.  GS got off scott free for example.
       
      So the bad behavior on Wall Street continues – derivatives, market manipulation, etc.  Outsourcing to China continues as well and it's nasty.  How anyone that has half a heart can buy Apple product is beyond me.
       
      But these problems go far beyond the executive branch.  I continue to hold Congress is a huge problem – they are owned by lobbyists.  So again – how does one get the reform needed on Wall Street, pharma, unions,etc.??
       
      I think the US is in great economic danger and I don't see anyone making the hard decisions in the executive or legislative branches to remedy this.  I think we're headed for a major market correction and higher joblessness barring the right action.  This is further compounded by Europe's woes and instability in the Middle East.
       
      And this has been coming for 30 years – not solely Obama or Bush, but all the way back to the stagflation and the oil crises of the 70s leading to Reagan spending too much and then the advent of the first big bubbles since the 1920s.
       
      The challenge thus for Obama and Congress is to get jobs going, rein in lobbyists and fix things like health care.  The govt. has their work cut out for them.
       
       

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  • Frankly

    We are moving forward!  But we didn't win.  America chose the direction they want moving forward, but again, we didn't win…  This was an election, a decision by the American voters on the direction they want to see the government take.  I voted for Obama, but I voted for the direction, not the man himself.  I like him, and I like Romney too, but they are their party representatives (candidates).  We will win when the deficit is brought down to zero, or we will lose when we “tilt the machine” (the deficit) too far.  For now, we are still playing the game!  The question is, when will we learn to play it better?   While the Republican Party has Karl Rove as a coach they will never be players in the game.
    Look to Ohio, they have voted for the winning candidate for the last 10 elections.  They do not care about the man running, they care about the issues and the direction the country needs to take to resolve those issues.  I will vote for any party or candidate that stands up and says they will stop deficit spending and balance the budget including paying down the deficit.  The Republican Party will not lead our county again, until their direction changes.   Democrat or Republican, we need good leadership to take America in the right direction. 
    Maybe one day we can say ‘We won!”, but not today…

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  • CarolCarolina

    @ Frankly, your comment is quite sobering, especially after the statement put out by Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell:

    "The voters have not endorsed the failures or excesses of the president's first term, they have simply given him more time to finish the job they asked him to do together with a Congress that restored balance to Washington after two years of one-party control…."To the extent he wants to move to the political center, which is where the work gets done in a divided government, we'll be there to meet him half way."

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/11/07/McConnell-stiff-arms-Obama-Senate-Dems/UPI-55861352214084/#ixzz2BYRnbeRN

    While Democrats want to move forward, Republicans begin to strengthen their walls and Mr. Obstructionist-In-Chief himself, Senator McConnell is leading the fight. So you're right Frankly, to declare that "We won," is to embrace the blind hope and optimism the President warned against in his acceptance speech. We have got to work to unseat the obstructionists in our legislative chambers.

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    • BC

      My observation in any relationship when there is a problem it's never 100% on either side.  To fix it both sides have to give/compromise.  I see two parties that won't budge.
       
      And if they don't the country will fail economically.  I have no clue what eiher side intends to do, but given so few incumbents got booted out of Congress I'm not optimistic that things will change much.
       
      Let's hope this is not the case.

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      • Tom

        My observation in any relationship when there is a problem it's never 100% on either side.  To fix it both sides have to give/compromise.  I see two parties that won't budge.

        This was the situation in 2008 when the GOP lost, insisted (at least publicly) on compromise and Obama was committed to try, especially since unity was one of his campaign themes.  The result was that Obama was screwed-over every which way.  In 2012, McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and those guys know that their tricks are not going to work this time around.  Obama is not up for re-election again and all sides know that the GOP will be blamed for any damage caused by intransigence.  Republicans most powerful appeal to Obama is his innate love of country and personal desire not to see anything bad happen to it.  Any miscalculation on their part could result in a backlash lasting many, many election cycles. Make no mistake, the 2012 Obama is a pissed-off Obama. Republicans will budge alright.

        They'll budge plenty. This will be commented on widely.

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        • BC

          Tom – there's a reason that Congress has an approval rating of around 9%.  Both sides don't like to compromise and particularly because their main goal is to represents lobbyists as it is lobbyist cash that keeps them in power.
           
          Obama made a lot of mistakes initially like going for massive HC reform right off the bat when the economy was tanking.  You can't be that rigid rather must be fluid as the situation dictates.
           
          This being said there probably is no good time to address HC given how many earn a living off of it so you will always have a brutal fight.  So Obama's legacy on this or more importantly what is good for we the people now depends on his and Congress' ability to realize the intent of ACA.  Again one can't be rigid specifically on how this happens.
           
          As with any problem there are any numbers of ways to skin the cat.  So let's hope what is chosen is what gets us there most sustainably and quickly because it has to work.  For example, if the cost of medicine is cut by reimbursing less then hopsitals go bankrupt and doctors retire or will simply not see patients whose insurance doesn't pay enough.
           
          If you force doctors to see people where they lose money then they too will go bankrupt.  So you have to get the cost down – pharma, suing, edu, insurance, etc. and address the cause of the problem – not the symptoms.
           
          On this issue of not having insurance and being screwed around – I understand the problem far better than most – 6 months of insane pain due to no insurance and then fighting for insurance while in pain.  My goal is workable reform so that no one goes through what I did.
           
          And now that the election is over let's get away from fluff issues like mandatory birth control coverage.  I support it via Medicaid and Planned Parenthood, but not if people are earning good money.  In an environment where we're trying to provide HC for all you don't get there by increasing costs and it annoyed me to no end when the birth control for all issue surfaced when people that don't have insurance are fighting to get life saving operations.
           
          I think it's also important to listen to people on all sides.  I'm not on the same page as people here or Kos, but I've  found common ground on a number of issues where we have the same goal just different ideas on how to get there.
           
          So let's work together and try and get stuff done – both sides will need to compromise. 
           
          As for Obama being pissed off – who cares – he needs to lead.  He got re-elected on a negative plan – Romney is lying, he's rich, his plan doesn't make sense and truthfully a lot of Romney's math didn't add up.
           
          Now he's in so what's his plan to get the country back on the right course?  We'll find out, but I would suggest to you that the number one issue is the economy.  I think if he is to be successful then he needs to stop blaming everything on someone else.  Do we have to hear for another 4 years that it's Bush's fault or obstructionist Repubs?
           
          This isn't leadership.  FDR got CCC up and running in 3 months as it employed people in every state and district – he worked with both parties.  This is what needs to happen.
           
          As for the economy, real unemployment is closer to U-6, which is 14.6%.  The country must be stabilized economically in order to do anything otherwise you won't have the tax revenue to pay for anything.
           
          The deficit spending since the 80s can't go on for much longer unless it is gradually lessened to show the markets we will not default and with $16 trillion in debt and adding on to the tune of $1 trillion per annum it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand we are heading off a cliff.
           
          The Fed bought 70% of all US debt issued in 2011 and they had to because the bond auctions would have failed given the inherent risk, which is not rewarded via 3% or so on 30 year bonds.  If this is not addressed and printing continues unabated then inflation will get worse and more jobs will be lost in all other verticals outside of energy, food and other necessities.
           
          Ultimately we go Weimar and then the game is over and people won't be worried about HC rather from where their next meal comes.  In such case future voting cycles won't matter as anarchy will rule.  I agree though that the repubs need to cut their nonsense as well.
           
          So let's hope we see real change now and compromise is achieved and the country goes forward.
           
           
           
           
           
           

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          • Tom

            I saw the movie "Sicko" with my Mom whenever that was when it came out and it made a big impression.  Since then, I have believed strongly that public health care makes as much sense as public fire fighters, public police, public education, public military, etc.  It's just a basic service.  It's not more expensive than defense spending and no one, at least no other country, is attacking us at the moment.

            Politico has a funny story today about all the conservatives tweeting about "moving to Canada" :)

            http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83554.html

            If this is not the most sincere endorsement imaginable for socialized government, then I don't know what is.

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            • BC

              I agree that HC is a necessary public service and would say that in a culture as advanced as ours it's barbaric to not have it.  And yes this will cost money.
               
              As per socialism, I guess it depends on one's definition, but would say one needs to very carefully examine how one can pay for it and make it work.  I think it's doable, but the costs/waste has to be examined and done away with.
               
              I would also say that you need competition to big pharma in that how else can we address things like cancer.  Right now I see a symptom based treatment model whereby the fix is poisionous chemo and rad.  With all our knowledge of tech is this the best we can do?  I don't think so, but if someone came up with a non patentable cure the FDA would have the guy thrown in jail in defense of their big pharma customers.
               
              Regulated competition to avoid snakeoil salesmen would help a lot of people and force pharma to devise better solutions to compete.  I'm not suggesting conspiracy either rather big players protect their market share and pharma makes money based on patents and this is how everyone thinks in pharma and oncology.  They make money by creating patented new drugs so they will never think outside of the box and try something new.
               
              Pharma is a protected industry and this is commie not capitalist.
               
              As for conservatives moving to Canada – go for it.  I'm not going anywhere.  My recollection is Alec Baldwin and a few others were supposed to move to France under Bush and still haven't so it's always funny to see this.
               
              Bottom line is no party serves anyone 100% and sometimes the party most aligned with one doesn't win.  Such is life and balance is a good thing.

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  • Tom

    If you look at the demograpic in Miami it's a lot of people that fled their countries for more freedom – economic and other and above all a better future for themselves and their children.  In this regard it is quite similar to all prior waves of immigration to the US – e pluribus unum.

    I should do a blog piece on this since it fits in with the name of this blog.  There was a very distinct period in Miami politics that started around 1981 or so (after Mariel) and was basically over by 1986.  In this period, the city and county governments and local congressional district went from white-controlled to Cuban-controlled.  The struggle was marked by much of the same rhetoric we are seeing now at the national level – the "English-only" amendment, the "American" (House) seat etc.  A fascinating period and one that is worth studying for parallels with the larger demographic shifts.

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    • BC

      Tom – you're right the country is always changing.  People hated the Irish when they came in, but due to numbers they gradually gained a lot of power.  People feared that oh my God these Irish are going to ruin everything and it wasn't the case nor is it the case with Hispanics now.
       
      They'll add great value (already have actually) to the country and become mainstream like all immigrant groups before them.  What happens in general is most people fear change so they don't like it and then the pols that represent them stir up more fear as they don't want to lose their power/voter base.
       
      In this regard the repubs have definitely missed the vote on Hispanics and they need to wake up.

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      • Tom

        I agree and, combining our respective points, 2012 for the U.S. is like 1986 was for Miami or whenever the date was in Boston when the Irish finally got political power.  Mexicans are now the new Cubans (new Irish) and they will have to be wooed and kow-towed to as a group by anyone who wants to hold office.

        Ita: You should copy and paste BC and my comments on this, add your own stuff and make it a blog post.

         

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        • BC

          Couldn't agree with you more.  I wouldn't say it's wooing people rather you have to represent as much of the populace as possible and if you ignore 12.5% of the population that is rapidly growing then you're not a very clever politician nor are you doing your job.
           
          What I always found funny on the Hispanic issue in California versus NY/NJ is that Hispanics were far more integrated into the culture in NY/NJ.  When I lived in California there was a certain disdain for them that I really didn't see as much in NY/NJ.
           
          And this came from a lot of so called liberals in Cali.  NY was way more integrated/mixed.  I was in Bakersfield on a Latin payment mechanism project.  You wouldn't believe how damn hard they work in the hot sun.  So Californians whine about the cost, but then pay them a fair wage and wait til you see the whining when produce gets more expensive.  California is nimby liberal.
           
          They're just coming here for a better way of life and this is what the US is – e pluribus unum.  To deny this you're ingnoring what our country was built upon and why it has been so great.
           
           

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