A brief geographical history of the “United” States …

 

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  • BC

    Suggesting that those did not vote for Obama is racist is a bit much.  The economy was a huge issue as is health care and other.  People vote with their pocketbooks. 
     
    On the issue of segregation, I think this exists all over the country; partially due to economics and partially due to dislike/fear of people different than oneself = prejudice/racism.
     
    So how would you explain the segregation in the Northern states?  This linked report out of Brown University in Providence did a very interesting study on segregation in the US and found it to be alive and well.  Data is based on 2010 census.
     
    As per black vs. white segregation the 10 most segregated cities/areas in order are as follows:
     
    Detroit, Milwaukee, New York, Newark, Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami, Cleveland, St. Louis, Nassau/Suffolk counties (Long Island).
     
    Boston checks in at #11 and you will recall the violence there in 1974 when schools were being desegregated.
     
    So only two of the top ten are in the South or area that you are suggesting is racist.  Then you also have to look at change over time.  The study uses an index of dissimilarity.  NY in 1980 was 81.7 dissimilar and only dropped to 79.1 in 2010.
     
    Atlanta on the other hand went from 76.1 in 1980 to 58.3 in 2010.
     
    If you look at white versus hispanic segregation the 10 most segregated metro areas in order are:  LA, NY, Newark, Boston, Salinas, Philadelphia, Chicago, Oxnard area, Santa Ana area and Houston.  So only one in the top ten from the South.
     
    Now I'm not making an argument that the South is the best thing since sliced bread rather segregation seems to be quite high in the North and California.
     
    As a result, I don't think what you suggesting with your charts is accurate.

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  • dutchie

    BC, not sure how you read this map as a suggestion that people not voting for Obama are racist. That's not how I read it. 
    To me it's just interesting that 150 years later you can still see a political division in this country based on the geography of the old south and north. 
    As for segregation. I think you are confusing voluntary segregation, as in people with a similar language/background/culture living in the same neighborhoods, with legal segregation, as in Jim Crow laws. The second map displays the latter.
    Since you brought up voluntary segregation and racism let me say this. If I had to advise a non-white friend on where to live, I would not tell them to go live in Birmingham, AL because that city is #13 on the segregation list of the good people at Brown University. Perhaps voluntary segregation is not a great measure of racism.

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    • BC

      Dutchie: 
       
      You added no text to your graphics so you leave it up to the reader to interpret what you are getting at and when you show a map of slavery, racial segregation and then the 2012 electoral results I think you are quite firmly saying that the South is still racist.
       
      This being said I think you should look at the electoral results of each election back into the 1940s as the map has varied greatly over this time often with the South voting heavily democratic and the North going Republican.  For example, Clinton won a lot of states in the South.  In 76 Carter won all of the south and lost NJ, CT, VT, NH, ME.
       
      Liberal Jack Kennedy won a good deal of the south in 60 and Texas.  Illinois voted for Nixon both times, Ford in 76, Reagan both times and Bush in 88.
       
      Indicating that nothing has changed since 1950 or 1859 is to ignore the voting history of the country.
       
      As for segregation, I'm not confusing anything.  Boston is racist as hell, yet the vote liberally.  Chicago – racist as hell and California is the most segregated place I have ever lived and this includes liberal San Francisco and the reason is they don't want to live next to different people particularly blacks/hispanics = racist.
       
      Take SF – rich in Presidio/Pacific Heights, yuppies in Marina, gays in castro, hispanics in mission, blacks down by Candlestick – very segregated.

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  • BC

    Other comment is the US is not perfect, but we have come a long way and can go much further.  What dismays me is the polarization.  It needs to stop or the country will tear itself apart and then no one wins.
     
    I would admit I've overdone it on my segregation comments.  Where people live is their own business and let's be honest – I like arguing.  LOL
     
     

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  • BC

    LOL

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